Question: I have suffered from narcolepsy for as many years as I can remember. However I didn’t know until a year ago last May that it was narcolepsy; that’s when I was diagnosed. I am 48 years old.
Since being diagnosed a little more than a year ago I have gone completely down hill. I am also bipolar and the struggles I have had with narcolepsy has put me into a severe depression. I had to go out on disability in early March and have been told by my employer that there is a good chance my job won’t be there if and when I am better to come back to work because I was a new employee not protected by FMLA.So I have lost my dream job, my house is falling apart because I’m either too tired and having sleep attacks all day or too depressed to even get up and get things done. The worst part is my memory. I don’t have one anymore. There isn’t anything that I can retain for more than a few minutes at a time. I have started dinner, went to get something out of another room and completely forgotten that dinner was cooking, when I smelled or heard it burning I would then remember.I was attending college, had accommodations under Section 504 of the Americans with Disabilities Act and was just dismissed because I failed 3 terms. This was directly related to the bipolar and narcolepsy. Mostly the narcolepsy because I couldn’t stay awake to do the work and if I did do some reading assignments I couldn’t retain a thing I had read, therefore I couldn’t get my work handed in on time.My first term of school I made the President’s and Dean’s list with a GPA of 4.0. I then flunked out a year later.The other worst part is the lethargic feeling I am constantly experiencing. Out of 7 days in the week I might have a couple decent, productive days. The problem is that I have so much to do on my good days because there were so many bad days things piled up. So I bust my butt and try and catch up and then am exhausted for another 2 or 3 days.There isn’t a med they have found yet that will help me. I have been on Nuvigil, Ritalin, Ritalin LA and am currently taking a high dosage of Dextroamphetamine, and I am lucky to get a few good hours each day from it.The biggest problem with my situation is that because the medications for Narcolepsy are stimulant medications they counteract the bipolar. Meaning, stimulants can and do put me into a manic or hypomanic phase. So I am manic, wired, head spinning with thoughts and things that I could or should be doing, extra pent up energy but either too lethargic to do anything, or I am up for 2, 3, 4, and on a few occasions 7 days straight. The only sleep I do get are from the sleep attacks.Now you may wonder why I don’t just go to
bed. I try. I lay there for hours dozing, in and out of hallucinations, sleep attacks, sleep paralysis, but can’t fully sleep because of the mania.The most absolute worst part that narcolepsy has ruined in my life is that I also have a 14 year old special needs son that is also diagnosed with bipolar, but he got a double whammy and is also Autistic, he has Asperger Syndrome. I can’t take care of him. He takes medications 3 times a day and I forget to get them for him. I have the alarm set on my cell when he is supposed to take them. But if I happen to be in another room or busy right at that second and turn the alarm off I forget within a few minutes that it was time for his meds.I can’t cook, do laundry, or even socialize or hang out with him because I am either too tired, sleeping, going in and out, or too busy catching up on all my mommy duties around the house that I don’t have time for him.Not only is narcolepsy a joke disorder it’s a backwards disorder. All day we suffer from EDS, but then when it’s time to go to bed we are wide awake. Many people with narcolepsy also suffer from insomnia. It’s a vicious cycle. You are at the mercy of the disorder.Then try and find a doctor that really knows ALL about narcolepsy. I haven’t yet. I have been to 3 sleep specialist and each one has said something different. Well, almost, 2 of the 3 have said to me, “It’s narcolepsy, it is what it is, you just have to live with it.” The third specialist I saw told me that my narcolepsy is untreatable because of the bipolar, told me that my case wasn’t in the text books and he didn’t know how to treat me. He asked if I had ever thought about filing for social security disability because he doesn’t think I will ever work again. So, that’s where I am at. In a nutshell I have no job when I am ready, I am on short term disability, getting 60% of my base pay, meaning I am trying to survive on $900 a month, waiting to see if I get approved for SSDI, am loosing my son because I can’t take care of him, have lost half my family and friends due to it, I am miserable everyday and had even contemplated suicide last night.It’s a nasty thing to have!KimmeryKevin: Hey Kimmery, thanks so much for sharing your story. I hope others are able to benefit from your insights and contribute to your own with their thoughts. I sympathize with your circumstances and experiences, but I have faith that you will prove that third doctor wrong and find a way to be productive and live a fulfilled life. Keep educating yourself and I believe you’ll certainly stand a good shot.Speaking of education, have you read our interview with Dr. Emmanuel Mignot, the discoverer of the narcolepsy gene?All the best,Kevin
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My primary sent me to the Virginia Mason Sleep Clinic in Seattle this May where I learned I have narcolepsy and they tweaked my CPAP stuff. I knew I had severe sleep apnea overlooked for years because I have the hereditary type,and after 2 years of CPAP wasn’t getting better: sick from HBP, sick all the time, can;t heal , cataplexy st work.etc. Danger of losing my job, dying in my sleep, etc. Further issues:chronic pain (narcotic meds for ANY life quality) after multiple spine surgeries due to spine trauma as a child and advancing osteoarthritis. I ‘looked like’ a lazy junkie! I kept on – with the support of a good supervisor -and I’m finally going in the right direction. Bottom line: DON’T GIVE UP AND GO SEE A SPECIALIST! It makes all the difference! That doc told you that you are ‘un-treatable’ because he/she has a big ego.
I have already been to 3 sleep specialist. Only one half way helped me. There isn’t any more sleep clinics here in town to go to more sleep specialist. I have to go close to 200 miles to see someone else. I can’t drive due to the narcolepsy and right now don’t have anyone that can get me there.
Thanks though for the suggestion
I was diagnosed a couple years ago and have gone through a lot of changes. Life is definitely on the upswing now, but it’s still hard.
Take it day by day, or moment by moment. Especially on the tough days, it helps me to do something nice for myself that I enjoy. I make a cup of tea, or stand in the sun for a few minutes. I often put in earplugs when I go grocery shopping or somewhere noisy because it gives me relief from being vigilant all the time, and it makes it easier to relax and focus. I make a simple sketch of something I like, if I can’t find the words to write it down.
Practice being kind to, and loving yourself, in the same way you love your child. Each of us can only do so much on a given day. It’s hard enough for “regular” people to get by, so give yourself a break. Everything can fall apart completely, and it will suck, but you will be ok. You’re articulate and sound responsible and smart. Trust that you have the inner resources you need to thrive.
OMG. This disorder is destroying me. I am 45 years old. I have struggled so hard to go to school and made it far enough to get a job in the field I was in school for. I pushed myself so hard to avoid going on disability. I was able to get my job done by working 10-12 hour days instead of 8 (on salary). I recently lost my job due to a political issue within the agency.
I cannot function well enough anymore to find another one. I cant get disability bc I was able to function for a long time and didn’t lose my job bc of narcolepsy. My unemployment claim is pending and may take a while. I have no income, no health insurance and couldn’t even drive my daughter to school this morning bc the nuvigil has stopped working consistently.
I can hardly stay awake most of the time and feel so sick and exhausted that I can’t even get down to social services to see if I can get help. I don’t know what to do, I fell asleep several times involuntarily just writing this. I am thinking I should kill my self so my kids will at least get ssi survivors benefits.
cant find you on face book
Kevin,
I friended you on FB.
i dont know what to say exactly except that i hope you will both remove suicide as an option to resolve your trials. i am sorry that like so many others you are both in such a tough place with no real healp.i am in the process of getting a diagnosis myself and wonder if i ever really needed to be treated for depression or if i really do have fibromyalgia or if everything is a direct result of being narcoleptic and tired all the time. i never thought i would really get diagnosed with narcolepsy but use to make a lot of jokes about it. now i find myself saying to others that it may seem funny but it isn’t very funny at all. so with the tables turned i try to understand that people just dont understand. they cant. i felt the same way with the fm diagnosis. but the reason i am writing is because i want you to never ever doubt the significant role you play in the life of your kids or anyone else for that matter. even at your most unhealthy state they know you are there. our children are much more accepting of our inabilities than we think. life has never turned out the way i planned and has in fact been one crisis after another. my entire family is disfunctional in every way possible. i have realized that it is ok if they dont understand, dont fit the “mold”, and dont support me the way i need to be. i also realized that my life will always be riddled with money problems and health problems. i am so tired i think i will die sometimes. i accept that this is who i am. not by choice but because it just happened that way. (continued on next post-3000 words seemed enough lol)
It’s 11:31pm, I am actually up for the first time in a week. I have narcolepsy w/o catalepsy-which I personally think is worse. I have been diagnosed with mthfr genetic mutation which causes depression. I have also been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I currently take deplin (7.5 mg- that shit does nothing) provigil 600 mg, vit.D 3 2000, multi vit., adderall xr 30 mil. Cap. Acid flex pill, and bc .
Out of all that , adderall we’re off quick, provigil makes me feel like crap if not taking on shed. Daily. Right now, I’m up because I got mad at my boyfriend for being tired when I finally felt awake!!! Please help.
I would love to comment with something good that would provide a sense of releif but, I can not. I, too, have a very similar story. My son has been taken away and I have not been employed for over four years. At times I live in the woods and other times with folks who want to help. Having bipolar and narcolepsy has ruined my life and shows no signs of getting better. I contemplate suicide everyday. Perhaps if I had family or friends that understood my neurological disposition, I could live in a semi-productive life but, not a single person understands it. I long for an end and beleive it will have to be from my own hand.
I hope this comment aids in your choice to either live an agonizing life that no one cares about or to end it all to be in a much more pleasant one.
Ryan,
Please know that there are people out there that care and get it. I know it’s not the same as your friends and family but these people are so loving, caring, compassionate, empathetic, and wise, because they all have N too. A few of us have bp and n. Please friend me on Facebook and I can get you into sone support groups that can help you.
I know it seems like ending your life is the answer. It sounds like you are living a true hellish nightmare, I am so sorry. But if you could just friend me on FB I promise there will be so much support and love you will be overwhelmed.
Please DON”T do anything to yourself. Please get to a crisis center or call the suicide hotline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255). I hate to hear of anyone going through this. It is hell. I am so sorry your child was taken from you. I know how that feels to a point. DHS almost took my son two summers ago. I was told that if I couldn’t start functioning better and being able to take care of him they would have to remove him from my care.
Please get in touch with me on FB,if you can’t find me go to http://www.facebook.com/kimmerskreations and leave me a message there, I can friend you from there and get you into the groups. Please reply to this so I know you are okay. Hugs and prayers to you!
As a 26yr old man whose been suffering from Nacrolepsy for most of my short life. I’m happy to know that I’m not the only one who struggles though School, work, and life in general beacuse of this condition. It’s hard to be happy, except on the rare days when i wake up with energy. I recently lost my job after 5yrs at the company and i must say i’m thin on hope. Too bad we can’t get paid to pass out! Thank you guys for sharing your experiences with narcolepsy i feel as feel i was reading about myself.
Keep an eye out, go to needymeds.com It is a wonderful webite for the ill.
Your post said new meds for narcolepsy. That site is ONLY for helping one find assistance in paying for their meds. Please be a bit more specific, otherwise please don’t go handing out false hope to those of us that are desperate for relief and meds that work. I have used the needy meds site many times and have not once seen where there is a new med for N.
On Feb 9th you posted a comment. I apologize and didn’t see it until now. I think I know some people on a support board that I am on that might be from BC. I would be more than happy to get you into the group, it’s a private Facebook page.
Just message me here and I will tell you how to get into the group(s). There’s more than one, and they are all great!!
Hang in there there are people that understand and can help lead you in the right direction for disability and other services.
Kimmery
Hey Kimmery,
I am 48 with Bipolar, REM Behavioral Disorder and my daughter was just diagnosed with Narcolepsy which I believe I have as well. Sooooo tired of being tired!!
Let me know how your Xyrem journey goes!
Kimmery…can’t find you on facebook..
what are you under?
I’m the one from Feb 9 re british columbia
Please contact me on Facebook. There are support groups on there that would be very beneficial to you. You can friend me there, my name is Kimmery Mackie. If you can’t find me go to http://www.facebook.com/kimmerskreations leave me a message and I will get you added to several helpful groups. I too have degenerative disc disorder, bulging disc and herniated disc.
There are also some great support groups for this on Dailystrength.org Go there and look up degenerative disc disorder. The people there are very helpful and awesome.
PLEASE don’t give up, there is help and tons of support. If it weren’t for these support groups I can honestly say I would have ended my life months ago. BTW, all the support groups on Facebook are closed groups so you don’t have to worry about family or friends seeing things you might not want them to see.
Please get in touch with me, I want to help.
Kimmery Mackie
I feel so bad for everyone that has posted here so far. And for anyone that reads my story and feels desperate and needs help.
The only thing that has helped me is joining several private support groups on Facebook. There are literally 1000’s of people out there that are going through what we do. And believe it or not they go through a lot worse than some of us do. However every single person in these support groups have empathy, compassion, and wisdom to help us get through all these rough days and weeks.
PLEASE friend me on Facebook, when you friend me please leave a message that you are needing help with N. Otherwise I won’t know who you are. My name on FB is Kimmery Mackie. I currently have a profile pic of Garfield holding a coffee cup, he is saying “bean me up”. However I am going to be changing that to an Autism picture soon.
If you can’t find me through regular FB than go to my business page and leave me a message there. http://www.facebook.com/kimmerskreations I will see your message and get you added to the support groups.
Please don’t give up. There is tons of help. Many wise people on these support groups. Great people, compassionate,empathetic and just down right awesome people. I say they are my family now, they have gotten me through many down times.
Hang in there! There is help!!
Kimmery Mackie
Hi,
Please go to http://www.facebook.com/kimmerskreations leave me a messag there that you have N and want to be added to the support groups. I will friend you and then add you to the groups.
Anyone else reading this that has N and need support do the same. Just go to my business page, leave me a message, and I will get you in the support groups.
Please don’t give up, THERE IS HELP!!!
Kimmery, and all, sorry for the recent spam that got through. All the spell-related posts were spam comments that showed up elsewhere on our site as well. I’ve deleted them. I wish our commenting system dealt with spam better, but for now we have to deal with it as it is also the same system that allows these wonderful, community-driven visitor posts. All the best!
Kevin,
I am so laughing at myself right now. I didn’t even think about it being spam. I think you could tell I was getting quite upset. 🙁 But thank you for letting me and us know. Have a good day.
First I have to say that for the last 2 years since I wrote my story I have been telling everyone the wrong Facebook name for me. It is NOT Kimmery Mackie, it’s just Kim Mackie.
Andrea,
I am so sorry you had to go through so much and still things aren’t good for you. Wish there was some way I could help.
My heart goes out to you. I will tell you like I tell all the others I’ve tried to help, friend me on Facebook, Kim Mackie. I will get you into the private narcolepsy groups. They have literally kept me sane and on a few occasions saved my life.
If you cannot find me still then go to http://www.facebook.com/kimmerskreations Leave me a message there and that you are from this site and I will friend you.
It truly breaks my heart to read all these stories of how hard having N is. God Bless you all. ((((((EVERYONE))))))
I too have narcolepsy along with cataplexy. My life is in hell at the moment, I can’t think straight to complete a task, I can’t remember most things, I turn taps on to wash up, go to the toilet and forget the taps are on and do something else, I flood my kitchen at least 3-7 times a month. Same with cooking.
I sit there like a zombie, in my head I picture myself doing jobs and housework I should have done a week ago, but that’s as far as it gets, I have nothing inside me to be able to get up and do anything. I’ve been called lazy, scruffy, accused of enjoying laying in bed all day.
I hate this life, people don’t understand, its a tiredness like you have never felt before and when you sleep your in a semi-coma type thing. I hate life at the moment. I have 4 special needs dogs to care for and I save every bit of energy I have for them, if it weren’t for them I wouldn’t get up at all, I go on automatic and do what I have to do. My tabs aren’t working at the moment, its trial and error for now.
This was a good site-all this spell chasing, has chased me off
I truly feel your pain…I am trying to help my 16 year old daughter with the exact same thing (with the addition difficulty added in and that is teenage hormones). I don’t know where to turn, there are even times that she can be so verbally abusive and although has never put her hands on me has cleared off table tops, smashed things against walls. I refuse to give up on her!!!! They talk about putting her in the hospital, but I know that would just make her sink deeper into depression. I do not sleep either because I always feel the need to check on her 4-5 times a night and sometimes I go to her room and find her wide awake. She has missed so much school, however her school has been awesome and as long as she makes up her work and we have a note from the doctor for the absences they deal with it. I am terrified that she will never be able to be a productive working adult…she has such big dreams about being a ultra sound technician, I just am afraid she will not be able to attend regularly enough to get through the course. If there is anything, anything at all you can tell me or point me in the right direction…I would appreciate it more than you could ever know!!!!
Ally,
I am sorry you are so young and have had it so rough in your short life. PLEASE friend me on Facebook so I can get you into some support groups. As for college did they offer you any accommodations? It is required by law that if you have a disability they have to give you accommodations. As long as what you are receiving doesn’t give you an advantage over the other students. I had accommodations like extra time to take test, recording the lectures. I was going to college at Kaplan University online. It was easier for me to do it at home because I could do it on my own time. However sitting at the computer several hours a day reading the assignments and doing the work made my N worse. So another of my accommodations was they had to give me hard copy books so I could move around while reading, or stand up and read the books. It helped a lot.
But PLEASE get a hold of me on Facebook and I and all my other narcoleptic friends can be of great help to you. Hang in there, I totally get being depressed and it’s hard as heck to find meaning in our lives when we suffer from the disastrous disorder. It truly does affect every aspect of your life. My name on Facebook is Kim Mackie, I live in Des Moines and my profile picture is of an Autism sign. Please don’t hesitate to get a hold of me. I want to help you.
Hugs and <3
I have known i have narcolpesy for a year now! Within the last few months my life has gone down hill! I cant work, keep up with my babies, and i feel like my husbant is at the brunt of all the madness! We have always been 100% a team, but it feels like even if he isnt saying it hes fed up! I feel lost and alone, because im 21 dealing with a disease i cant control. My family doesnt really understand narcolepsy. They basically think if i sleep im okay, but thats not it at all. They dont realize it comes with a ton of other “bagage!”
Im kind of lost
This is actually a great thread.
Is there a moderator that can delete
the spam posts throughout?
I am fed up with this site. The spammers and trolls have taken over and the admins can’t seem to get rid of them.
If you have narcolepsy or any other sleep disorder please friend me on Facebook. My name on there is Kim Mackie, when you friend me tell me you have N or a sleep disorder and I will accept your request and get you into the support groups or help you anyway I can.
Or you can email me @ kimmerhawk@hotmail.com, just put “Narcolepsy has ruined my life” in the subject line.
Please don’t give up, there is help and hope.
Hugs to all,
Kimmery
Hi all, Our host has finally been able to run a bulk delete of the spam comments that were cluttering some of these visitor submitted pages. I’ve also added some code that should stop these comments from making it onto the site in the first place. I wish I could have run the bulk delete script earlier, but unfortunately due to the way this site is hosted I don’t have direct access to the database and thus have to rely on the host for some operations like this.
Apologies for the inconvenience, but thank you for your patience, and for sharing your thoughts and stories for others to read on this site.
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sounds to me like you have a methylation deficiency mutation. please google MTHFR and do your own research. It may relieve bipolar, depression, and narcolepsy good luck
Hi there, thank you for sharing so openly and honestly. I have just been diagnosed Narcolepsy and awaiting return appointment and trial of meds which they will monitor due to my prior diagnosis of Bipolar. Friends dont bother with me anymore, a couple I rarely get to see tell me they don’t believe my diagnosis’s, but they don’t see the downhill struggle of life, lack of housework etc done, cancelled appointments, forgotten appointments. I hope something can help us, and quality of life/family comes back together.
Hi I suffer from narcolepsy also and without my meds wouldn’t be able to work or care for my two asd young children. I tried dex etc but had to have my dose raised constantly. Now I use a nootropic medication which is available OTC in uk not sure elsewhere, named movigil or modafinil. U might want to check it out, it’s not a stimulant either. But if you are taking methyl folate as with gene disorders we generally do then you will find huge relief from methyl folate alone.
I’ve been reading all these posts and feel ashamed to even mention my condition… I too have been diagnosed with narcolepsy by a sleep clinic just under a year ago. Looking back on my past, my relationships, work and the development of my teen years, I’ve been affected by it for at least 23 years. My shame comes from the fact that my condition is mild compared to what I’ve read on this blog. I don’t have cataplexy which raises the question, do I even have narcolepsy? I constantly question myself and wonder if I’m even sick at all with this insidious condition or just dumb and lazy… No one knows what this condition is and most so called friends don’t sympathize at all, rather choosing to believe what they’ve always perceived, that I’m a giant sloth… I’ve been so use to having other people tell me I’m lazy and overly criticize me, that I’m not sure anymore whether I actually have a problem or if they’re right and I’m just lazy…
This second guessing has been going on for as long as I can remember which coincides with this depressive state I’ve been in… This inability to get out of bed and face a world I don’t understand and that doesn’t understand me… At one point, I couldn’t even recognize the person in the mirror, as if I had completely disassociated my identity from my physical self so much I wanted nothing to do with life or me in it… There was such a disconnect that I couldn’t bear to see this stranger that reminded me of a person I no longer desired or considered to be and the empty shell I had become. Though depression seems to be reduced from that time, it remains a constant and unwelcomed companion in my life…
98% of the time, I feel like my mind is mush. I can’t seem to concentrate or remember things I was just thinking about (though not to the extent others have expressed on this blog). Life lacks so much meaning and coherence for me… It feels like I’m always idle in this thick haze… It often seems like I can feel my heart pumping blood as it rushes through my body like a warm wave. As if each heartbeat propelled these pulsations that help bring and sustain this dullness I feel … Kind of like numerous ripples around the area where a small stone was thrown into the water or waves hitting a battered shore. It’s a throbbing numbness, an invading dullness that always seems to reverberate throughout my body, but that mostly swells in my head… I’m just tired of being tired all the time and having this screen that constantly shields me from properly perceiving the world around me, while allowing it to see me for all my flaws and overt sluggishness… I often wonder if it will get worse to the point I’m unable to drive, function at all or enjoy life less than I already do…
For now, it just seems like I don’t really have a condition… I can’t separate the person I am from the condition I’m told I have… My guilt towards my inability to function properly and being able to discern if that inability stems from my own fault or a condition, is weighing me down and doing me in… Especially after reading how much worse a lot of you seem to have it… I don’t know if I’m actually sick or just sick of being like this, sick of being me…. All I do know is that I’m not going to keep going on like this for much longer… Living simply out of culpability and cowardice is getting to be too much…
Re march 18 &jan 2 comments…. There is real value in these statements. You will benefit from a blood test for mthfr or methylation gene disorders. Estimated to impact 30% of our race. Directly causes chronic fatigue syndrome, depression, anxiety. Effectively your body does not use folate or iron and numerous processes aren’t triggered in your body. Please do not overlook this as a generalised statement – there could be a $15 per month investment which could help. If you are reluctant to having blood test look up methyl folate available on multiple sites – solgar metafolin has high reputation. If you take methyl folate you may have significant relief, best to have bloods done to eliminate guess work. If u have the gene disorder you can do anything else you can think of but you need methyl folate in any case….. Please take this seriously.
Falling asleep at the traffic lights with children in the car isn’t an experience anyone should go thru let alone as a daily lifestyle and specially for the others safety. This is quality information.
This mirrors my own life so much and it hurts to know that someone else is experiencing so many of the same things. I think about suicide every single day. I’m bipolar, I was spectacular in college before the disorder became really bad, I’m working at my dream company and I’m new and I’m so afraid they will get tired of seeing me look like the walking dead, making stupid mistakes and forgetting things they told me three hours ago. I feel like I’m living in someone elses mind. Hard to explain. I have all these memories from before I was 20 (I’m 43 now and just diagnosed) that were the complete opposite of the spectrum in which I now live. I don’t recognize myself in my actions nor physically (I have gained 160lbs since I was 23). I am completely alone. I can’t afford to live and I have not a soul who can help me. I feel like I need assisted living until I can find a medication that works. I love working and would hate to have to go on disability but I can barely drive right now. I fell asleep almost 20 years ago and totaled my car because I nodded off and just two years ago ran someone off the road because I can’t seem to help myself.
I know this is an old post, but I pray you have been able to get help and feel better. It has ruined my life completely. I was too tired to date, much less have children or even get married. I just want to go to sleep and never wake up.
Hi all, I won’t be commenting on this site after this entry.
I as well as others have given good information regarding methylation in the body which is the very foundation your entire body triggers critical process on.
I have not seen one question or comment to indicate this information has been read let alone acted upon.
If you feel as though you don’t work properly and the doctors cannot tell you why and you suffer from narcolepsy or chronic fatigue or depression or autism or circulation issues or foggy memory or overweight plus 100s of other symptoms….. You possibly have a gene disorder which simply means your inherited genes have at some point translated in a non ypical way and you cannot process folate (iron).
I often come to this site in the hope that someone who’s life is falling apart and is desperately searching for help has actually read these positive productive entries but even sadder than your initial blogs is that you only wish to vent your despair….. Read this information and do something with it.
To say you are lost and sick but don’t know why and then glance past a possible needle in a haystack whereby someone else has gone out of their way to reach out a hand….. Well what can I say ? I have narcolepsy but I don’t live with it, it’s managed as well as my methylation issues, now I am down to good bmi, my hair grows, I go a whole day without falling asleep behind the steering wheel and I truly live not just age.
Narcolepsy is horrid and tormenting but even more so is reluctance for people to challenge a different way of thinking,
The Drs have never helped me with methylation issues and in fact never knew what the blood test was for …… Come on people please, I so hope you look at this and begin living… Google mthfr symptoms and start ticking off the check list !
I’m 42, and after years of doing research to find out what’s wrong with me I finally diagnosed it on my own. Through what I learned from years and years of reading everything, spending thousands of dollars on anything and everything I could get my hands on, overseas pharmaceuticals, nootropics, supplements, exercise, local physicians, every anti-depressant ever made, MAOI’s, medications currently in clinical trials, you name it, I’ve tried it, nothing worked except something I remember taking years ago, Tramadol. It was prescribed to my wife at the time, I looked up the information I could find at the time, which was mostly wrong. It was labeled a benzodiazapene at the time, take a look at what it is now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramadol
I took one from her pill bottle to see how it was effecting her. Everything all of a sudden seemed normal, the lingering dark cloud I’d carried for life suddenly lifted, I had motivation to do the things I wanted to, I didn’t feel tired as usual, I thought “this can’t be right”, I should be feeling drowsy. She never finished them, so I experimented with them until they were gone. I was back to my normal depressed, low on energy, anxiety laden, always tired self in no time. Nobody knew about how I felt every day, I never told a soul. I thought it would make me seem weak. I always thought it was my fault I felt that way, maybe I was lazy, not trying hard enough.
The single reason I’m alive today is because I am the most stubborn person I know. Somehow I managed to get by in life, feeling awful inside, like a horrible failure, worthless, yet I had became a pro at hiding it, as far as everyone else knew, I was just a nice, normal guy.
Progressively it became worse, and worse, I was in my mid 30’s and I could barely move when I woke from sleep, every muscle in my body responded with an indescribable pain/stiffness, still, I told noone. By sheer willpower alone I forced myself to appear normal, just like everyone else. I hid it as much as I could, making excuses time and time again why I was late for everything. Because it took 3 hours for the pain/stiffness to subside, which now had plunged me into the worst, darkest depression imaginable, the anxiety had been there as long as I could remember, so to me it was normal, I was in hell, still, I told noone.
The thought of going to sleep was pure dread, because I knew I’d wake up tomorrow in agony, exhausted no matter how long I slept. It got worse. 3 hours of pain/stiffness was cake compared to how it is today, now it includes an overwhelming feeling of dread lasting far beyond 3 hours, usually 8-12 hours, then 16 hours till I feel almost normal before sleep takes over again. I may get 1 day a month I feel almost normal for a few hours.
For the last 7 months until this day I’ll now share my routine. Fight off sleep, sometimes for up to 24 hours, eventually it wins, I struggle to wake, sometimes for hours, eyes open, why am I still here I ask. Then struggle, finally upright, my walking is erratic, stumbling, stiff, painful, on my way to the bathroom. Overtaken by exhaustion I have to sit down, there I stay, with my friend pain, no emotion at all, I feel nothing anymore, head in my hands, an hour, or two, or three, as I silently discuss, the only option that’s clear. Yet I’m stubborn, I’m not giving up, knowing worse is to come, I still won’t give up, soon all possessions they’ll take, where then I have no idea, I still won’t give up.
Family and friends still say it’s all in my head, even after I’ve explained through years of struggle, reading everything I can up to 12 hours a day, certain I finally found out what is wrong, all the symptoms match. All day, every day, I feel worse than death, going to the kitchen takes an hour of arguing with myself to move. I feel nothing, like doing nothing, not moving an inch, motivation long gone, too exhausted to move. I’m on my own, except for my dog, the likely reason I’m still here. She’s beside me right now, just happy I’m near.
Sleep will overtake me soon, I can feel the dread forming now. I’m probably wrong, right now going through my head. I’ll wake up soon and what’s said will be worse. I wonder at times if this is what the beginning of madness is like. I won’t let it happen. Another fight when I wake, not looking forward to that. If I’m right it’s still a long road ahead.
Hi there to the gentlemen who entered on May 4 “just found out” wow how nice to finally sre a positive entry
Good for you, do u realise the reason hat helps is because the benzo medications increase gaba in the brain. Some people don’t have receptors to form gaba and other just don’t convert it for a methylation reason
If u were to research gaba and glutamine as glutamine is the exciting amino which is supposed to convert also to GABA being the calming amino then U would see more. My kids take GABA, “now” manufacture done good chewable tablets.
I understand its niot all in your head at all, having someone else decide the say is doomed for U before u even open your eyes and not being able to move your body half as quickly as you wee thinking about doing it and then at the end of the day to have doubt and questions lay on you by people U have opened up to bust be absolutely horrid. Good Ipn you I say for continuing yoir fight, you are a motivator for others in sharing your story…… Let’s watch together and see if w can get someone else putting a positive I qualities and searching blog on ….. I take my hat off to you, congratulations. Sharon
I feel for you, it makes me feel like my symptoms are actually nothing at all. My only question is, where you have been given a stimulant for the days, what has been given to you for the night? Sleeping tablets aren’t ideal but reducing the sleep deprivation is an absolute necessity because nobodies mind can function properly when they are unable to stay awake it is literally impossible. The drug Xyrem is something you should look into big time. it is something that has been used recreationally by a lot of people in to get a sort of drunken euphoric feeling but it is its anesthetic like equalities that make it so good for a proper sleep every night unlike alcohol which knocks you out and makes you feel like crap, it gives you the most amazingly regenerating sleep even if it was only short.It also is used for treating depression and it really works as as instance mood enhancer I hope you try it because I read what you wrote and my heart just went out to you.
This disease has ruined my life also I used to be so active and the life of the party . I miss going out with friends and being out going . I found out I had narcolepsy after a sleep study 4 years ago and ever since then it my life and my body have went to trash I don’t even have to go into detail about the emotional roller coaster I go threw . I have a girl friend and I have know her for 5 years now we started dating about a year ago during that time her mom passed away and left us with a little baby girl I can truly say they are the only reason I have not given up already I had tried around a year ago to this date but some how I got found in my apartment I don’t even remember going to the hospital I woke up once in Icu 4 days later . Next thing I know I was back in my apartment. . I knew something I had to give I found away to a least stay awake some of the day by doing something I shouldn’t but right now it’s the only way I can survive Ssi takes for ever and since I. 24 they act like they. Don’t want to assist me. . I hate asking for hand outs my pride hurts every time ei have to my name is lawrence if u want to hear more of my store Add me on fb
I have a nearly identical situation to just found out. I have been diagnosed with narcolepsy w/o cataplexy. A few years prior to that before the EDS came on, I had been diagnosed with moderate to severe depression. I can sleep an hour a night or 14 hours and feel the same when I wake up, like I didn’t sleep at all. My muscles are stiff when I get out of bed for hours or all day to some extent. I have little to no emotion or care even with things I know I should care about. I am in my mid 30’s. 10 years ago I had no depression or narcolepsy symptoms. A couple times I have fallen into such depression I can’t function in daily life in any capacity. I have done inpatient and outpatient programs for the depression. They bring me back from the bottom of the barrel. I currently take 20 mg Adderall three times per day. I have taken different SSRI’s and I think they assist from falling into deep dark depression but that is about it. Many had unwanted side effects. Others did nothing. Nuvigil has done nothing. I am pursuing xyrem. Adderall is helpful although my body has adjusted to it quite a bit. I feel bad for my family. They are understanding but it can be frustrating. I would be annoyed with me if I was them. I have more or less have given up maintaining friends. The depression makes me want to isolate myself. I do not want to hurt myself or others. I will fight even if I don’t want to, for no other reason then those close to me take care of me when I at my lowest. It is so hard to work and raise a family. Keep the faith.
I wish I had something good to say right now about N and how to get out of the depression. But I can’t. My 29 year old son lives with me and helps to some extent. However there is always a consequence to asking for any help. I get yelled at, cussed out, and belittled every time I ask the smallest thing.
He will be 30 September 2016. He told me today that he would no longer live with me or help me out after he turns 30. I am on my own.
I can’t take care of myself or my house without help. I have a bath aid that comes 3 times a week. A home health care nurse that comes 3 days a week to set up my meds. I am so suicidal on a daily basis that my meds have to be locked up and the nurse just gives me 2 days worth.
Today I actually thought about just drinking a bottle of my Xyrem and never waking up. (I also have bipolar disorder). I am in a deep depression right now because I have NO life. ALL my friends have forgotten I exist so I never have visitors. I have no license, thanks to N. So I can’t go anywhere. My son never takes me anywhere. He won’t even let me go to the grocery store with him to do the shopping. I’ve begged him to take me camping for the last 4 years, we went once last September. I want to go fishing but have no money for a license or any way to get to the lake.
When I wrote my initial story I was down. But this is so much worse. I just don’t want to live this life. On top of the N I have bipolar disorder, degenerative disc disease, arthritis, costcochondritis, anxiety issues, and PTSD.
I can’t take it anymore. If I have a good N day my arthritis is so bad I can barely make it to the kitchen and then I have to lean against the counter until my hips quit burning from the arthritis. I can’t go up and down the stairs because of it. So, I haven’t done laundry in over a month. When I do do it I have to take breaks just walking up the stairs with the basket.
I DON’T WANT TO BE IN THIS BODY ANYMORE.
Lawrence, please let me know what your last name is so I can get you into groups on FB. Either email me, kimmerhawk@hotmail.com or look for me on FB. My profile picture is of a dog, I live in Des Moines, and my name on FB is Kim Mackie. If you can’t find me go to Kimmer’s Kreations on FB and message me there.
Even though I am in the midst of one of the worst depression I have ever been in I want to make sure you all get help. I hate knowing others are as down and desperate as I am. Please message me somehow so I can get you on FB. There are tons of awesome groups on there that have some of the best people I have EVER met in my life. They are kind, considerate, understanding, empathetic, they are like my family. I have even been lucky enough to meet many of them at the Narcolepsy Network Conference that I went to 2 years ago in Atlanta. There is another one coming up in October in Minneapolis. If you want to learn about it go to NarcolepsyNetwork.org.
Hugs and strength to all of you.
My son was recently diagnosed. I WILL be getting the MTHFR genetic testing done.
I was in the 3rd grade when my symptoms first appeared and was diagnosed that summer. I’m now 19. I have narcolepsy with cateplxy. I do take medication. Amphetamine salt combo. On a good day the 30mg is just enough to keep me from dosing off while driving.(PS I hit a mailbox with my car and am now carless and jobless due to that) But usually I always dose off a little. Don’t have it anywhere near as bad as yalls stories thou. Which makes me feel more greatful. I feel for all of y’all and hope God touches every single persons life who has to live with narcolepsy or with any life impacting disorders/diseases. I’ve tried attending college but am now afraid to continue driving due to the wreck(another thing that scares me is that I was driving and had my 4 year old neice with me.I swerved off the road a bit cyz I dosed a bit…since that day I haven’t really been able to trust myself driving. If I had gotten in a accident that day with her idk how I could live with continuing to drive). With school hours and of course I will try to get a job. I’m not sure i will be able to make it back home safely everyday with all of that(considering I live about 45 min. From town) anywhays…so far last year i ganed 50lbs in 6months due to not taking my meds for that time(insurance cut me off and couldn’t afford meds still have the weight and some extra) and couldn’t stay awake in class. Regardkess Im thankful that I was able to keep my grades up(I’m an honor student). But currently I feel as if I’m wasting my life away at home cuz I’m to scared to drive anywhere!!! I have a couple of friends that understand my situation and try to help me but others do joke about it. Sometimes my family will too. I remember my mom,having to take me to my appointments and she didn’t want to take me and she would get mad at me and ask”why do you have to be sick?” Shed also mention that I was useless and ask why couldn’t I just be normal. Which being narcoleptic is really an emotional thing. And I ask God why me? Why can’t I just live a normal healthy life? I mean I can’t even laugh normal without falling over a little when I do laugh(from the cataplxy) and people laugh at me for the way I look when I laugh and ask jokingly ask”why do you do that?” And tell me “your weird” but I try to overcome it and tell myself everything happens for a reason. But just thought I would share a little. Hopefully one day there will be a world where narcolepsy is a thing of the past.
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I’ve never had a sleep study, but a couple years ago, after a few cataplexy scares (and 1 bad fall), I googled some stuff and realized I have mild narcoleptic symptoms. I found all my issues in one place–excessive daytime sleepiness, sudden naps, sleep paralysis, crazy dreams, cataplexy, etc. I researched all over and didn’t find any solution. I’m not a fan of pharmaceuticals, so didn’t want to go that route, especially if people were often saying it didn’t help or they had other unwanted side effects.
Also, a couple years ago I happened upon a webinar about emotional issues that talked about MTHFR. It described me exactly! I had issues with my mood my entire life (just ask my family), and no matter how hard I tried to change, I was still moody, angry, hypersensitive, depressed, anxious, and tired. I was extremely concerned over why my mood was so ‘messed up’ and I couldn’t seem to change it. After learning about MTHFR on the webinar, I immediately bought Vitamin B supplements (with methyl-folate) and my mood was immensely better! I never had genetic testing to verify the MTHFR but either way Vit. B solved the issue!
An unexpected benefit is that the VITAMIN B ALSO HELPED MY NARCOLEPSY SYMPTOMS! I haven’t had sleep paralysis in a long time, EDS & sudden naps are significantly reduced (I noticed my diet also plays a role here), cataplexy episodes are reduced (infrequent & seem to only happen around my monthly cycle ??), I sleep better at night, and I’m ‘awake’ when I’m awake. Everything is not completely gone, but my symptoms are decreased enough that I can be productive and not have to worry about it. GIVE VITAMIN B A TRY — make sure it is methylated!!
[also, I trick I found to help ‘break out’ of an EDS episode: scoot to the edge of your chair and fall. Yes, I know it’s a little dangerous, but the falling immediately snaps me awake. Like the movie Inception.]
I am now 55 and I lost my dream job two years ago because they didn’t like all the meds I was taking. My sleep went to hell about 6 years ago but in between me not wanting to go to the doctor and first taking a detour to the psychiatrist (I had all the symptoms of depression but sadness. After a year, the shrink said, “I don’t think you are depressed I think you have a sleep disorder.”
While I performed fairly well at work, it was difficult to maintain a schedule and once I drove in while asleep. But work must have given me an energy boost because since my early retirement I have 2-4 days when I really can’t get out of bed. I take Xyrem and Klonopin 1.5 mg at night (my REM sleep will last all night otherwise). In the day I take Vyvanse 70mg, and Adderal 30mg 3 times a day, plus 20mg Lexapro. My Thyroid is fine. I am not depressed, I am making more money than when I was working, I am just too weak, tired and sleepy to do anything. I just wanted the other writer to know she is not alone.
I’m sorry from the bottom of my heart. I had what was seemingly a very positive life slowly spiral to rock bottom due to not understanding narcolepsy and hateing myself as a result. Our situations are not the same but I have compassion and love for your struggle and at least some personal experience. I wanted badly to die because I felt as though I wasn’t alive anyway…
Modafinil is actually helping me get my life back and also curing the depression as a result. I don’t not have bipolar… I have extreme mood swings and hate being sped up and although it has amphetamine qualities it works for me and my heart doesn’t go crazy. I wake up in peace instead of terror. I don’t know if you’ve tried it yet, but I pray that if not maybe it can help you like it did me. All my best!
Modafinil.
I’m sorry from the bottom of my heart. I had what was seemingly a very positive life slowly spiral to rock bottom due to not understanding narcolepsy and hateing myself as a result. Our situations are not the same but I have compassion and love for your struggle and at least some personal experience. I wanted badly to die because I felt as though I wasn’t alive anyway…
Modafinil is actually helping me get my life back and also curing the depression as a result. I don’t not have bipolar… I have extreme mood swings and hate being sped up and although it has amphetamine qualities it works for me and my heart doesn’t go crazy. I wake up in peace instead of terror. I don’t know if you’ve tried it yet, but I pray that if not maybe it can help you like it did me. All my best!
Modafinil.
Your story was almost the same as mine. But I had a mother who fought for my life and took me to a dr who helped. I was put on Xyrem, a medicine that transformed my life. Giving me my life back. No uppers, just a medicine that helps me sleep. That’s the key to it all, good sleep. Praying you found this medicine years ago.
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